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===Thermistor===
 
===Thermistor===
  
Most resistors vary their resistance with temperature. A thermistor ('''therm'''al res'''istor''')  
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A thermistor ('''therm'''al res'''istor''')  
 
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does it intentionally, and more pronounced.
  
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as a current limiter and/or (self-resetting) overcurrent protector.
 
as a current limiter and/or (self-resetting) overcurrent protector.
  
One use is to lessen the sudden inrush current in transformers and such:  
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* place in series with the primarily coild
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* when cold (just switched on) it typically has a few hundred ohm resistance
 
* when cold (just switched on) it typically has a few hundred ohm resistance
 
* and once it warms it (few seconds later) goes to under an ohm.
 
* and once it warms it (few seconds later) goes to under an ohm.
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===Diodes===
 
===Diodes===
  
The voltage across a diode <!--(or any PN junction?{{verify}}--> will decrease by ~2 mV per °C in a fairly linear way.
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The voltage across a diode <!--(or any PN junction?{{verify}}--> will decrease by approx 2 mV per °C in a fairly linear way.
  
 
You need amplification and probably a DAC,
 
You need amplification and probably a DAC,
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: reported to 1% but don't assume more than ±5 %RH accuracy
 
: reported to 1% but don't assume more than ±5 %RH accuracy
  
E.g. in one test with two DHT11 modules next to each other, temperature was reported 0.0 to 1.0 degrees apart on average, but RH ~11 %RH apart on average (fairly consistently so there's probably a little you can fix with calibration against a known value).
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E.g. in a quick test with two DHT11 modules next to each other, temperature was reported 0.0 to 1.0 degrees apart on average, but humidity was ~11 %RH apart on average (fairly consistently so you can probably improve this a little via calibration against a known value).
  
  

Latest revision as of 16:04, 3 December 2019

This is for beginners and very much by a beginner. It's meant to try to cover hobbyist needs, and as a starting point to find out which may be the relevant details for you, not for definitive information.

Some basics and reference: Volts, amps, energy, power · Ground · batteries · resistors · changing voltage · transistors · fuses · diodes · varistors · capacitors · inductors · transformers · baluns · amplifier notes · frequency generation · skin effect


And some more applied stuff:

IO: wired local IO wired local-ish IO · · · · Shorter-range wireless (IR, ISM RF, RFID) · bluetooth · 802.15 (including zigbee) · 802.11 (WiFi) · cell phone


Sensors: General sensor notes, voltage and current sensing · Knobs and dials · Pressure sensing · Temperature sensing · humidity sensing · Light sensing · Movement sensing · Capacitive sensing · Touch screen notes

Actuators: General actuator notes, circuit protection · Motors and servos · Solenoids

Some stuff I've messed with: Avrusb500v2 · GPS · Hilo GPRS · JY-MCU · DMX · Thermal printer

Audio notes: basic audio hacks · microphones · amps and speakers · device voltage and impedance, audio and otherwise ·

Less sorted: Common terms, useful basics, soldering · Microcontroller and computer platforms · Arduino and AVR notes · ESP series notes · Electronics notes/Phase Locked Loop notes · mounts, chip carriers, packages, connectors · signal reflection · pulse modulation · electricity and humans · Unsorted stuff


See also Category:Electronics.

This article/section is a stub — probably a pile of half-sorted notes, is not well-checked so may have incorrect bits. (Feel free to ignore, fix, or tell me)

Thermocouple

Inexpensive High range of temperature Not highly accurate - assume you won't get better than 1 degree Celcius of resolution, less if you don't calibrate well


Age with time and high-temperature use, so will need occasional recalibration and/or replacement.


They produce voltage due to the thermoelectric effect - on the order of millivolts so most uses, and accurate use, requires amplification (with high input impedance to avoid the measurement affecting the thermocouple itself).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple#Types

Thermistor

Most resistors vary their resistance with temperature.

A thermistor (thermal resistor) does it intentionally, and more pronounced.


NTC: negative temperature coefficient, resistance drops (logarithmically) as its body temperature increases

PTC: positive temperature coefficient,


The 'at-rest' resistance varies with intent


They are frequently used in temperature sensing, temperature regulation, and (over)current protection.


Perhaps the he simplest way to get a voltage from a thermistor (think ADC, comparator) is to have it be one leg of a voltage divider.



Power thermistor

A power thermistor is a very low-resistance (NTC) thermistor in series with your main current, as a current limiter and/or (self-resetting) overcurrent protector.


One use is to spread the inrush current (in transformers and such) over more time:

  • place in series with the primarily coil
  • when cold (just switched on) it typically has a few hundred ohm resistance
  • and once it warms it (few seconds later) goes to under an ohm.

This lessens the magnitude of the sudden current that can happen right after you switch something on.


See also:

Diodes

The voltage across a diode will decrease by approx 2 mV per °C in a fairly linear way.

You need amplification and probably a DAC, accuracy isn't great, but it's very convenient inside FPGAs, processors, and such.

Unsorted

DHT11, DHT22

Measures:

  • Temperature (NTC thermistor)
0-50 ℃
reported to 1℃ but don't assume more than ±2℃ accuracy
  • Relative Humidity
Range: 20-90 %RH (note: range and accuracy vary somewhat with temperature)
reported to 1% but don't assume more than ±5 %RH accuracy

E.g. in a quick test with two DHT11 modules next to each other, temperature was reported 0.0 to 1.0 degrees apart on average, but humidity was ~11 %RH apart on average (fairly consistently so you can probably improve this a little via calibration against a known value).


Pins: 3.5-5.5V, data, NC, Gnd. You will want a pullup resistor on the data pin, mostly because it's bidirectional onewireish(verify).

Power: ~0.5mA while measuring, 0.1mA idle


DHT22:

RH: 0-100% range, 2-5% accuracy
Temp: -40 to 80°C range, ±0.5°C accuracy



See also

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/io/io_3.html