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This removes salmonella on the outside,
This removes salmonella on the outside,
but the washing also thins the protective cuticle (a layer on top of the actual shell).
but that washing also thins the protective cuticle (a layer on top of the actual shell).


So while it treatment makes it almost certain the egg is fine ''now'',  
So while this treatment makes it almost certain the egg is fine ''now'',  
it more easily spoils after this treatment - the thinner cuticle means bacteria (salmonella or not) will more easily enter the egg.
it more easily spoils ''after'' this treatment - the thinner cuticle means bacteria (salmonella or other) will more easily enter the egg.


Which isn't much of an issue if you refrigerate them, because that slows both the grows of bacteria ''and'' slows them entering.
Which isn't much of an issue if you refrigerate them, because that slows both bacteria entering, and their grows once they're there.






Most European countries increased sanitary requirements, and vaccinate hens against salmonella,
Most European countries addressed the same issue by increasing sanitary requirements,
making salmonella outbreaks rarer to start with.
and in particular vaccinating hens against salmonella, making salmonella outbreaks rarer to start with.


Eggs are washed, but but not disinfected,  
Eggs are washed, but not thoroughly disinfected,  
because if salmonella is unlikely in the hen there won't be any in or on the egg,
because if salmonella is unlikely in the hen, there won't be any in or on the egg,
and keeping the cuticle intact means the eggs keep better, also outside the fridge.
and keeping the cuticle intact means the eggs keep better, also outside the fridge.


(it in fact seems illegal in most (but not all) of the EU to disinfect eggs{{verify}},  
(it in fact seems illegal in most (but not all) of the EU to disinfect eggs{{verify}},  
roughly because the usual storage habits would make this riskier without your knowledge)
roughly because the storage habits around there would make this riskier without your knowledge)




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'''In or out of fridge'''
'''In or out of fridge'''


US eggs outside the fridge ''might'' go bad faster.  
US eggs inside the fridge are probably good for 1..3 weeks.
In unlucky cases this might happen in hours, but typically they last ''much'' longer than that.


US eggs inside the fridge are probably good for 1..3 weeks.
US eggs outside the fridge ''might'' go bad faster.
In the worst case this happens within hours,
but typically they last ''much'' longer than that.




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...and ''maybe'' 4..5 weeks inside the fridge, but that's not certain,
...and ''maybe'' 4..5 weeks inside the fridge, but that's not certain,
and people ''really'' don't like crossing the best-by date.
and people ''really'' don't like crossing the best-by date which you should assume is the 'if kept outside' date.
Which is probably the 'if kept outside' date.




There also seem to be a few countries (including EU countries) that do something inbetween - they do wash,
There also seem to be a few countries (including EU countries) that do something inbetween - they do wash,
also ''recommend'' to refrigerate,  
also ''recommend'' to refrigerate,  
but put in a conservative best-by date that is the 'if kept outside' date.
yet seemingly put in a conservative best-by date that is the 'if kept outside' date.
 




From a quick poll, it seems pretty much all americans put eggs in the fridge, but even a good chunk of europeans do.
From a quick poll, it seems pretty much all americans put eggs in the fridge - but so do a good chunk of europeans,
with some patterns per country.




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Moving a cold egg quickly into a warmer environment means condensation,  
Moving a cold egg quickly into a warmer environment means condensation,  
and condensation makes it slightly easier for bacteria to grow on eggs treated ''any'' way, and to penetrate US eggs.   
and condensation makes it slightly easier for bacteria to grow on eggs treated ''any'' way. Which on US eggs also means penetration.   


So with the US's treatment, it's best to only take eggs out of the fridge when you will actually use them.
So with the US's treatment, it's best to only take eggs out of the fridge when you will actually use them.
Not a huge deal if you don't, but a good habit.
Not a huge deal if you don't, but it's a good habit to have.
 


Condensation related bacteria is less pronounced in the EU treatment, but it's still ''useful'' for shelf life to store them in a regulated temperature somewhere below room temperature, but ''not'' refrigerated so that condensation on the way home is much less likely.


Condensation related bacteria is less pronounced in the EU treatment.
Note that if you keep them outside, then it's still ''useful'' to store them at a temperature below room temperature, but ''not'' refrigerated.
Supermarkets do this so that condensation on the trip home is much less likely.


For related reasons, the fridge door is not the ideal place unless there's also a cover, because this is a place with more temperature fluctuation in the air, and thereby more condensation.
For related reasons, the fridge door is technically not the best place unless there's also a cover, because this is a place with some of the largest air-temperature fluctuation, and thereby more condensation.  





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