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(side note: The below is more about what industry has settled on because it's easier, but there are further methods of preserving eggs - some of which you may care for if you keep chickens.)
(side note: The below is more about what industry has settled on because it's easier, so is also easier to follow by consumers. There are further methods of preserving eggs - some of which you may care for if you actually keep chickens.)




'''Salmonella background'''
'''Salmonella background'''


The reasoning is mostly related to salmonella.
The reasoning is mostly related to salmonella.  
 
Which safety measures have to assume is around (though it often isn't).


There's a few distinct factoids that are important context:
There's a few distinct factoids that are important context:
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An egg can  
An egg can  
: contain salmonella if the hen is infected,
: contain salmonella if the hen is infected,
: contain salmonella (or other bacteria) if it can penetrate the eggshell after being laid,
: contain salmonella (or other bacteria) if ''after'' being laid can and has penetrated the eggshell
: have salmonella (or other bacteria) sit on the surface, regardless.
: have salmonella (or other bacteria) sit on the surface, without also being inside.


Eggs have their own protection
Eggs have their own protection
: the cuticle (a layer around the actual shell) largely blocks bacteria
: the cuticle (a layer around the actual shell) slow most bacteria a lot
: the egg white itself slows bacteria for a few weeks  
: the egg white itself slows bacteria for a few weeks  


When contaminated with salmonella,  
When contaminated with salmonella,  
: storing eggs below 4°C (40°F) slows growth of bacteria, like salmonella. More pronounced in the freezer, but with more footnotes.  
: storing eggs below 4°C (40°F) slows growth of bacteria, like salmonella. More pronounced in the lower temperatures of the freezer, but that comes with more footnotes.  
: cooking eggs to at least 70°C (160°F) kills any bacteria present.
: cooking eggs to at least 70°C (160°F) kills any bacteria present.




At larger scale:
 
Unless you are dealing with salmonella in some way or other, you ''will'' have the occasional outbreak.
At a country scale, unless you are dealing with salmonella in some way or other,
Yet there are different viable ways to control salmonella.
you ''will'' have the occasional outbreak.
 
There are a few different viable ways to control salmonella - and the measures of some barely overlap with others.




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So while this treatment makes it almost certain the egg is fine ''now'',  
So while this treatment makes it almost certain the egg is fine ''now'',  
it more easily spoils ''after'' this treatment - the thinner cuticle means bacteria (salmonella or other) will more easily enter the egg.
it spoils somewhat more easily ''after'' this treatment - the thinner cuticle means bacteria (salmonella or other) will more easily enter the egg.


Which isn't much of an issue if you refrigerate them, because that slows both bacteria entering, and their grows once they're there.
Which isn't much of an issue if you refrigerate them, because that slows both bacteria entering, and their growth once they're there.






Most European countries addressed the same issue by increasing sanitary requirements,
Most European countries addressed the same issue by increasing sanitary requirements,
and in particular vaccinating hens against salmonella, making salmonella outbreaks rarer to start with.
and in particular vaccinating hens against salmonella,
making salmonella outbreaks rarer to start with.


Eggs are washed, but not thoroughly disinfected,  
Eggs are also washed, but not thoroughly disinfected,  
because if salmonella is unlikely in the hen, there won't be any in or on the egg,
because if salmonella is unlikely in the hen, there won't be any in or on the egg,
and keeping the cuticle intact means the eggs keep better, also outside the fridge.
and keeping the cuticle intact means the eggs keep better, also outside the fridge.


(it in fact seems illegal in most (but not all) of the EU to disinfect eggs{{verify}},  
(it in fact seems illegal in most (but not all) of the EU to disinfect eggs{{verify}},  
roughly because the storage habits around there would make this riskier without your knowledge)
presumably because the storage habits around there would make this ''riskier'' without your knowledge)




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US eggs outside the fridge ''might'' go bad faster.
US eggs outside the fridge ''might'' go bad faster.
In the worst case this happens within hours,  
In the absolute worst case this happens within hours,  
but typically they last ''much'' longer than that.
but typically they last ''much'' longer than that.


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...and ''maybe'' 4..5 weeks inside the fridge, but that's not certain,
...and ''maybe'' 4..5 weeks inside the fridge, but that's not certain,
and people ''really'' don't like crossing the best-by date which you should assume is the 'if kept outside' date.
and people ''really'' don't like crossing the best-by date,
which you should assume is the 'if kept outside' date.




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From a quick poll, it seems pretty much all americans put eggs in the fridge - but so do a good chunk of europeans,
From a quick poll, it seems pretty much all americans put eggs in the fridge.
with some patterns per country.
A good chunk of europeans do so too, with some patterns per country.





Revision as of 00:42, 4 February 2024




How to cook an egg

Boiled

Peeling

Poached

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On refrigerating eggs

Floating eggs