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==More on fridges and freezers==
==More on fridges and freezers==
===Super!===
===Super!===
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Terms like '''SuperFrost''' amount to temporarily cooling more.
More than would normally be required for a stable temperature.


Terms like '''SuperFrost''' amount to temporarily cooling more than required for a stable temperature.


Why? Well, for context, freezers are ''slow''. Once they're cold, they don't have to work hard at all,
because they're insulated well.  Mostly they're optimized to be efficient at cooling fairly slowly.


Why? Well, for context, freezers are ''slow''.
Because usually they don't have to work hard - they're isolated so well that ''once cold'',
keeping it at that temperature doesn't take much effort.


So they are optimized to be efficient at cooling fairly slowly.
Yet if you put in a ''lot'' of new groceries, the average temperature will spend a few hours warmer than the target.




Yet if you put in a ''lot'' of new groceries, the average temperature will spend a few hours warmer then the target.
With Superfrost ('''Supercool''' seems to be the same idea but for fridges rather than freezers, but these terms are sometimes brand specific so eh),
you make it cool harder for a while.  


With Superfrost, you can get it to be maybe 10 degrees colder than usual for a while,
Still without measuring temperature much, so if you do this without a reason, you might get it to be maybe 10 degrees colder than usual for a while.  
so that chances are better that once you put the groceries, the temperture will rise from colder-than-usual to usual temperature.


So should you do this before you put the groceries in, or after?


It's usually not very important, because a freezer is often -18C  
Before means the average temperature should now go between colder-than-usual to usual temperature,
though also that some things may freeze more than you want.
 
At the same time or after means less time of other things being warmer,
 
 
 
 
In a freezer the same may apply, but is usually less important because a freezer is often -18C  
making it unlikely the temperature the rise will be enough for anything to melt.
making it unlikely the temperature the rise will be enough for anything to melt.


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'''Supercool''' seems to be the same idea but for fridges rather than freezers.{{verify}}
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===On frost===
===On frost===
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In the olden days, a fridge was no more complex than a cooler element in a box.
In the olden days, a fridge was no more complex than a cooler element in a box.


In freezers, and in fridges with freezer compartments,
In freezers, and in fridges with freezer compartments,
that means any moisture in the air will, over time, condense and freeze on those cooler elements - which is what frost [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frost frost] ''is''.
that means any moisture in the air will, over time, condense and freeze on those noticeably-cooler elements.
That is what [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frost frost] ''is''.




This matters more clearly to freezers, where ''everything'' inside is is below freezing point (-18° C, 0° F).
This matters more clearly to freezers, where ''everything'' inside is is below water's freezing point (-18° C, 0° F).


Fridges (without freezers) aim for ''just'' above freezing point (4° C, 40° F), but the ''evaporator'' (the coldest part inside, because it's the thing that draws out heat) may dip a little lower.
Fridges (without freezers) aim for ''just'' above freezing point (4° C, 40° F), but the ''evaporator'' (the coldest part inside, because it's the thing that draws out heat) is often still a little colder.


Bottom line, when there is ''anything'' below freezing, and you add air, you add moisture that will eventually become frost somewhere.
Bottom line, when there is ''anything'' below freezing, and you add air, you add moisture that will eventually become frost ''somewhere''.




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so tend to have less problems with frost.
so tend to have less problems with frost.


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====Does a lot of ice make a fridge/freezer less efficient?====


====Does a lot of ice make a fridge/freezer less efficient?====
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Yes, but modern freezers tend to have a feature that regularly defrosts the cooling element with a heater.


In modern freezers, little. They tend to have a feature that regularly defrosts the cooling element with a heater. This means that there may be ice everywhere, it won't affect cooling much until it clogs up airflow.
This means that there may be ice everywhere, it won't affect cooling much until it clogs up airflow.




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It ends up being a curve depending on a few things.
It ends up being a curve depending on a few things.
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====My freezer causes freezer burn on food, what do I do?====
====My freezer causes freezer burn on food, what do I do?====
 
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That's mostly due to direct exposure to the air,  
That's mostly due to direct exposure to the air,  
which over time slowly freeze-dries food.
which over time slowly freeze-dries food.
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and it's ''preferable'' to have dry air in there (less frost),
and it's ''preferable'' to have dry air in there (less frost),
the best solution is packaging.
the best solution is packaging.
 
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====In defrosting a fridge, where does the water go?====
====In defrosting a fridge, where does the water go?====
 
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The same place that the small but fairly continually generated condensation water goes: out the hole in the bottom, onto a pan over the compressor, which due to being slightly warm will be slowly evaporated.
The same place that the small but fairly continually generated condensation water goes: out the hole in the bottom, onto a pan over the compressor, which due to being slightly warm will be slowly evaporated.


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Note that this hole is small, and sometimes clogs with food. Declog is with anything pokey (there's nothing much you can damage here), though there often is a plastic doohickey for it (that you may have thrown away not knowing what it is).
Note that this hole is small, and sometimes clogs with food. Declog is with anything pokey (there's nothing much you can damage here), though there often is a plastic doohickey for it (that you may have thrown away not knowing what it is).
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Revision as of 15:39, 20 September 2023

Physical mechanics of cooling

Passive cooling

Passive cooling tends to mean 'what happens with no moving parts'.

...so whatever amount of conduction, radiation, or convection would happen anyway.


Sometimes includes adding a fan.

You're stirring the air better than just convection would, so heat transfer goes a little faster than if warm air just sits around - but the difference is rarely much (if you're in gravity, convection will happen).

And you could argue that's technically active cooling (because you're adding work, so using energy), but intuitively it feels like it hardly qualifies.



On the technical side

This tends to mean

  • conduction - a good conductor spreading heat throughout
if any cooling happens, conduction's spreading brings the whole down
  • radiation - thermal radiation means movement of charges in materials (anything above 0 K) is radiated as EM at the surface
(black-body radiation can be seen as a "thermal radiation's real-world math becomes easier if we make some assumptions like that it's not really interacting in other ways")
  • convection - fluid flow, in this context often
air,
flow caused by heat changing temperatures and densities
that flow assisting better heat interchange with that fluid, because warmer air moving up tends to draws in colder air from the sides (which technically is an effect that needs gravity)

In practice there's more than one of these happening, but often one that counts for most exchange.





Evaporative cooling

Refrigeration cycle

Refrigerants

Heat pumps

Free cooling

Dessicant based systems

Peltier effect and related effects

Theory

Peltier device behaviour and uses

Transport

On efficiency

Using the effects - practice and products

When passive cooling works

Windows and windcatchers

Convection in houses

Device cooling

Passive device cooling

Heatsinks

Heat pipes and vapor chambers

Personal cooling

Fans / Why wind helps even when you're not sweating

Spray bottle, misting system, etc.

Some small tricks

Wrapped towel

Ice

Swamp coolers

Mini dehumidifier

"Personal ACs"

Air conditioning

One-hose and two-hose portable air conditioners

Car AC

Is a flipped AC a heater?

"Eco coolers"

Passive effects

Windows

Parts of designs

Heat exchanger

Unsorted

Cold and hot drinks

Ice packs

BTU

COP, EER

Adding some more considerations: SCOP, EER2, SEER, SEER2, CEER
Comparison?

More on fridges and freezers

Super!

On frost

Does a lot of ice make a fridge/freezer less efficient?

My freezer causes freezer burn on food, what do I do?

In defrosting a fridge, where does the water go?