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Absolute humidity is often expressed as either
'''mass of water vapor per volume of air''' (in grams per cubic meter)
with a maximum around 30 g per cubic meter.
 
 
This is practical for most 'weather outdoor' situations,
but less valid when there may be significant temperature or pressure changes,
so certain physics works in '''mass of water vapor per ''mass'' of air''' (usually in grams per kilogram),
also known as ''humidity ratio'' or ''mass mixing ratio''
 
 
And because these aren't even all the possible definitions,
you could argue you should always use more specific terms and avoid the potentially confusing 'absolute humidity'.
 


Absolute humidity is expressed as either mass of water vapor per volume of moist air (in grams per cubic metre)[3] or as mass of water vapor per mass of dry air (usually in grams per kilogram).[4]


Relative humidity, often expressed as a percentage, indicates a present state of absolute humidity relative to a maximum humidity given the same temperature.  
Relative humidity, often expressed as a percentage, indicates a present state of absolute humidity relative to a maximum humidity given the same temperature.  
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'''Absolute humidity''' is mass per volume of air (e.g. grams per cubic meter), or mass per mass of air (e.g. grams per kilogram)
'''Absolute humidity''' is (usually) mass per volume of air (e.g. grams per cubic meter), or (sometimes) mass per mass of air (e.g. grams per kilogram)




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Absolute and specific humidity feel like fairly direct measurement,  
Absolute and specific humidity feel like fairly direct measurement,  
yet turn out to not be very helpful to practical questions like "is there mist" or "how well can I sweat", or "is it likely to rain".
but at the same time are not the most helpful to practical questions like "is there mist" or "how well can I sweat" or "is it likely to rain".


...largely because answers to those also depend on details like how much mass the air ''could'' contain right now, which varies with other things - largely temperature, but also pressure.
...largely because answers to those also depend on details like how much mass the air ''could'' contain right now, which also varies with other things - largely temperature, but also pressure.






'''Relative Humidity''' (RH) relates the humidity to the dew point - the point at which the air can hold no more water.  
'''Relative Humidity''' (RH) relates the humidity to the dew point - the point at which the air can hold no more water.  
This is more meaningful, but also a little more complex to determine exactly.
This is more meaningful, but also a little more complex to determine exactly.


The [[#Dew point|dew point]] is basically that mentioned 'how much water can the air contain right now' - the saturation point of water in air, at which mist/clouds will happen, and at which condensation onto things happens ''very'' easily.
The [[#Dew point|dew point]] is basically 'how much water can the air contain right now' - the saturation point of water in air, at which mist/clouds will happen, and at which condensation onto things happens ''very'' easily.


This means RH is a function of both amount of vapour and temperature.
This means RH is a function of both amount of vapour and temperature.
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:: ...which is basically the same thing as saying the dew point changes
:: ...which is basically the same thing as saying the dew point changes
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More precisely, RH is 100 times
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* the [[partial pressure]] of water vapor in the air  
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But then, consider that the barometric pressure varies a few percent  at most.
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Technically, RH does not even (directly) depend on the presence of air.
Technically, RH does not even (directly) depend on the presence of air.
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The dew point itself also varies with temperature (it affects the amount of water moving in and out of the air), but in the context of ''weather'', in any one region, this variation is usually considered to be fairly negligible.  
The dew point itself varies with temperature, because it affects the amount of water moving in and out of the air,
but in the context of ''weather'', in any one region, this variation is usually considered to be relatively negligible.
 
So around things like weather forecasts we simplify things and report dew point as just a temperature.


Around things like weather forecasts we simplify things and report dew point as just a temperature.
This is ''not'' correct to physics, and actively confusing if you want to understand the intricacies  
This is ''not'' correct to physics, and actively confusing if you want to understand the intricacies  
(like how dew relates to dawn), ''yet'' it's practical when we only care about  
(like how dew relates to dawn), ''yet'' it's practical when we only care about  

Revision as of 09:13, 26 April 2024

See also Electronics notes/humidity sensing

Humidity and Relative Humidity

This article/section is a stub — some half-sorted notes, not necessarily checked, not necessarily correct. Feel free to ignore, or tell me about it.

Humidity refers to water vapour present in a volume.


Absolute humidity is (usually) mass per volume of air (e.g. grams per cubic meter), or (sometimes) mass per mass of air (e.g. grams per kilogram)


Specific humidity is the mass of vapour in a mass of air, e.g. grams of water, per kilogram of air.


Absolute and specific humidity feel like fairly direct measurement, but at the same time are not the most helpful to practical questions like "is there mist" or "how well can I sweat" or "is it likely to rain".

...largely because answers to those also depend on details like how much mass the air could contain right now, which also varies with other things - largely temperature, but also pressure.


Relative Humidity (RH) relates the humidity to the dew point - the point at which the air can hold no more water.

This is more meaningful, but also a little more complex to determine exactly.

The dew point is basically 'how much water can the air contain right now' - the saturation point of water in air, at which mist/clouds will happen, and at which condensation onto things happens very easily.

This means RH is a function of both amount of vapour and temperature.




The dew point itself varies with temperature, because it affects the amount of water moving in and out of the air, but in the context of weather, in any one region, this variation is usually considered to be relatively negligible.

So around things like weather forecasts we simplify things and report dew point as just a temperature.

This is not correct to physics, and actively confusing if you want to understand the intricacies (like how dew relates to dawn), yet it's practical when we only care about the temperature below which air can no longer hold all the vapour so a lot of condensation happens.



On relative humidity values:

  • Below perhaps 30% RH air is dry enough that moisture is easily moved into the air
    • clothes dry quickly
    • mold has little chance
    • chapped lips, dry mouth, dry skin, sore eyes, and nosebleeds are more likely
    • static electricity builds up more easily, because it won't discharge in smaller amounts as easily as in humid environments
  • Books and other paper materials are often stored in at somewhere between 30% and 50% RH, at a lowish temperature.
Lower RH is too dry for paper (verify)
  • Above 50% you start to see easier condensation onto cold surfaces
  • moist heat feels warmer than dry heat largely because it makes sweating less effective
  • moist cold feels colder than dry cold largely because condensing moisture conducts out heat faster
  • Throughout the world, average RH is roughly (verify)
    • 0-40% in desert(-like) regions
    • 40-50% in dry inland regions
    • 60-70% in moderate regions
    • 70-90% in above seas and near coastlines, in relatively wet climates, rainforests
    • 80-100% on islands and near seas, and in some very wet areas
    • in any one place, seasonal differences is easily 10-20%, varying a little per region and climate type (verify)
    • this is simplified - local climate types and some other influences may have large effects
  • RH varies throughout the day. How much differs per climate, but can easily be 50%


Controlling humidity

This article/section is a stub — some half-sorted notes, not necessarily checked, not necessarily correct. Feel free to ignore, or tell me about it.
  • Calcium Chloride (CaCl2) (chemically a salt)
deliquesces[1] (when there is a lot of water)
can be reused by dehydrating (e.g. exposing maximum surface area to dry air, or with gentle heat)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_chloride
(verify): Usually contains CaO, so is basic. So not the best choice when preserving acidic compounds
  • Silica Gel (SiO2)
reusable a bunch of times, in that you can remove the moisture with (gentle) heat
itself clear and nontoxic; if blue or pink, it has a moisture indicator added which is less healthy (if ingested) (verify)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel
  • Zinc chloride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_chloride
  • potassium hydroxide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_hydroxide
  • sodium hydroxide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide



See also Air_machines#Dehumidifier

See also


On climate types:

Also related: