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=Some things worth talking about=
=Some things worth talking about - mixed=
 
 
===Volatile organic compound (VOC)===
 
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Volatile organic compounds are those that are
* organic compound - which is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_compound very wide category]
* volatile, meaning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatility_(chemistry) it evaporates quickly] (at room temperature)
 
 
 
This can be a feature, or entirely neutral - it describes commuication between animals and plants, and odor carriers such as perfumes,
or both, e.g. just describing the thing that makes leaves or fruits or tree have a particular smell (e.g. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoprene isoprene] for oaks, poplars, eucalyptus, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonene limonene] for lemons).
 
 
Because 'organic' is so wide,
it includes a bunch of things which are fine,
but also be something you don't want, e.g. with some causing allergic, respiratory, or immune effects.
 
So in particularly human-made VOCs are regulated.
 
Not because they're all immediately toxic - many are not - but because of potential chronic effects.
 
 
Recently, a reason you may be looking for this term is indoor VOCs, as reported by some air quality sensors.
(most sensors are actually much too selective, but reporting some of them is better than none, I suppose).
 
Indoor VOCs are starting to get regulated more, also to regulate VOCs emitted from products.
 
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===Pesticides===
===Pesticides===
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-cide means kill. Pest means 'things we don't like in our crops'.
-cide means kill. Pest means 'things we don't like in our crops'.


 
Is it really that mind-readingly selective?  
Is it really that mind-readingly selective? Nope.
 
If pesticides ward off insects, why wouldn't they hurt us, or they environment?
If pesticides ward off insects, why wouldn't they hurt us, or they environment?


They do.
They do hurt us and the environment.


Worst case, it's basically a low level of poison, selective only in the sense that to us larger creatures it's something we can process, whereas to smaller creatures it's overwhelming.


There is a grey area around pesticides, for various reasons.
There is a grey area around pesticides, for various reasons.




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Parabens are metabolized, so low concentrations are unlikely to contribute.
Parabens are metabolized, so low concentrations are unlikely to contribute.
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=Some bad names=





Revision as of 14:18, 30 December 2023

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BIG RED TEXT HELLO: This is not health advice, or necessarily correct. Do not make health decisions based on just this. Do your own research, and not just the stuff that agrees with your opinions.



On toxicity

Everything is chemicals, and everything is toxic at high concentrations

Toxin, poison, venom

More technically

More practically

...except: bioaccumulation

LD50

Things barely worth talking about

E numbers

E numbers just means it's tested.

It is mostly things commonly used as food additives - so that we can quantify how to use them safely.


They get short codes in the process, which is an easier shorthand to refer to the substance and the tests. This is often easier more precise and/or easier than a fancier pseudonym and/or more chemical name (things like INCI may help both ways (e.g. water is aqua) but at least tend to standardize the names used somewhat).

Such naming can also make regulation a lot easier to do, including the health testing.

While regulations apply regardless of what name you use, it can make it somewhat easier for you to recognize what's in there.



Some negative fearful snap judgment got all E numbers associated with unnatural and bad for you, because it's largely just "the set of things we tested", it mostly isn't.


A good number of them are in fact nutrition you absolutely need, or are perfectly healthy, and/or perfectly natural.

Consider:

E300 though E309 are vitamin C and E,
E101 is vitamin B2 used as coloring,
E160c is pepper extract, mostly used for coloring
E160a is carrot used for coloring,
E170 is calcium (basically),
E407 comes from seaweed,
E322 frequently comes from soy,
E948 is oxygen


Sure, there are also a few handfuls (out of hundreds) that I don't see having a place in my food, if I have any choice. And that was part of the point: the testing let us know we don't want it, the name lets us check more easily.


And a few that you'll probably never see - there's rarely any silver (E174) or gold (E175) in food but they're included for testing purposes, just so that you may know how safe they are when they are used in, say, cake decoration.



See also:


What's in a name?

The things you actually probably want to be there

Some things worth talking about - mixed

Volatile organic compound (VOC)

Pesticides

BPA

This article/section is a stub — some half-sorted notes, not necessarily checked, not necessarily correct. Feel free to ignore, or tell me about it.


Phtalates

This article/section is a stub — some half-sorted notes, not necessarily checked, not necessarily correct. Feel free to ignore, or tell me about it.

PFAS

PFOA

This article/section is a stub — some half-sorted notes, not necessarily checked, not necessarily correct. Feel free to ignore, or tell me about it.



Parabens

Reading off ingredient lists