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: energy (heat) and usually hot enough to be [[incandescent]] (so creates light, and potentially a good amount of it),  
: energy (heat) and usually hot enough to be [[incandescent]] (so creates light, and potentially a good amount of it),  
: water,  
: water,  
: and CO<sub>2</sub> and/or, if not much oxygen is available, also noticeable CO and C.
: and CO<sub>2</sub> and/or, if not enough oxygen is directly available, also noticeable CO and C.
: and usually also other products, depending on what exactly you're burning
: and usually also other products, depending on what exactly you're burning


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Because you need to get oxygen onto the fuel, accessibility matters.  
Because you need to get oxygen onto the fuel, accessibility matters.  
For solids and liquids, fire effectively works on the surface only,
For solids and liquids, fire effectively works on the surface only,
or rather, it's mostly the stuff that has been loosened and meets oxygen that burns.
or rather the parts porous and loosening, meeting oxygen that burns.




Gas is more interesting, because you can get the combination to be more efficient.
Gas is more interesting, because you can get the combination to be more efficient,
(A ''lot'' more efficient if you don't mind some specific tools)
(A ''lot'' more efficient if you don't mind some specific tools)


But even vaporizing liquids fast enough in regular air makes it act like a gas with enough oxygen available to burn pretty well.
 
For liquids, on the other hand, need some assistance to become a spray fine enough that
enough oxygen from regular air makes it burn well.
Some of the fancier camping stoves do basically this. And have heads for specific fuels, basically for different mixes.{{verify}}
Some of the fancier camping stoves do basically this. And have heads for specific fuels, basically for different mixes.{{verify}}


But that's getting sidetracked. (As is adding a lot of oxygen - that's a dangerous thing in more way than one)
But that's getting sidetracked. (As is adding nunusual amounts of a lot of oxygen - that's a dangerous thing in more way than one, and usually we just use air's ~21%)





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A surprisingly good question.

Multiple good ones, in fact, including:

what does it contain?
what is is that we see?
how much does fire vary based on what it contains?
why can the thing we see be so big?
Is a lot of fuel being propelled while oxidation is relatively slow?
is there energy exciting electrons and causing sort-of-secondary light?
Is plasma involved or not?